Organelle as an audio looper?

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I’d like to discuss the Organelle and its possibilities of being used as a looper.

For example: plug a guitar in the 1/4" jack input on the unit and be able to loop or multitrack guitar parts combined with on-board Organelle synth sounds like bass to add a bass line using the wooden keybed

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This is a great idea! We were actually playing with a delay / looper patch the other day with guitar… and then wondered what the keys would do, and thought a simple synth to play along with the guitar would be so fun.

Our simple delay loop uses 2 knobs: feedback and loop length. Then the other 2 knobs could control say tone and loudness of a simple key synth.

The Organelle also has a jack for foot switch which could be used for something like a tap tempo or punching in…

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Very cool to hear.

What’s the maximum time you can get from a loops length?

Is it possible to do two separate loops/tracks with seperate vol/mix control? Or maybe verse and chorus looped parts

Could it possibly do things like loop reverse and pitch change?

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We had two 10 minute delays happening yesterday feeding into one another. I didn’t try making them longer than that, ultimately you are limited by the amount of RAM on the Organelle, but I figured 10 minutes was pretty long! It would definitely be possible to route and mix them in interesting ways too.

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That sounds really intriguing.
Looks like building something like the EHX 16-second Delay with Organelle would be entirely possible.
Brilliant stuff.

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The keys could be used to set the delay time to an interval which matches the BPM

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yes. look into puredata, it can do almost anything imaginable.

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If you want to build a looper, I’d suggest looking at Marco Baumgartner’s ALFALOOP patch (vanilla safe). I ported it to MobMuPlat on iOS and it’s a blast. I’m sure it will be equally fantastic on the organelle.


http://marcobaumgartner.com/#puredata

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Just opened this up and considering trying to port to the Organelle. I am guessing I need to:

  • Change audio i/o configuration
  • Assign keys / knobs to looper functions
  • Add menus for Organelle

Was hoping this would be straightforward but looking at the patch I’m not sure where to start! Has anyone else looked at this?

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I’ve already ported this patch to the organelle: http://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/audio-looping-on-the-organelle/159

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Even easier! :slight_smile:

Thanks!

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I’ve got a patch that does ‘Frippertronic’ style looping rather than more traditional loop pedal looping

Basically two loops that decay over time.

I need to tidy it up - unfortunately there are a lot of artefacts if you change loop time while it is playing. I’ll release it when I’ve done that (will likely port it to @thetechnobear’s new Kontrol format too)

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Were you able to tidy this patch up? Sounds interesting.

One of my favourite guitar pedals is Strymon’s El Capistan because of its “Sound on Sound” mode. A tape style looper where the loops degrade over time.

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Very intersted for a Frippertronic style looper ! Also a regular user of Strymon’s El Capistan pedal, loving it.

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Bumping this thread. @junklight any progress? Or can Overloop be modded to degrade older loops over time?

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so - not had a chance - I’m still porting Monome Kira to Lua - that will be followed up with a Organelle version - planning to make/adapt a Lua/PD object to talk to the grid (save me having to do two ports :wink: )

Also trying to write some AUs for money - one of those IS a frippertronic style looper

however i’ll do what I can to tidy it up and get it up in the next week or so

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Sounds cool keep us posted on the AUs…!

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I decided to practice my PD skills with experiments on looping and manipulating live recordings.
I’m a super newbie in PD and audio stuff, but I’ve got some knowledge with max/MSP.

I can see two branches so far, with PD vanilla.

  1. the delwrite~ route, easy and straightforward in a way, but am I right to assume that this doesn’t allow any rate control, any reverse playing, and any slicing ?

  2. the tabwrite~ route, which seems more complex to handle but more flexible. Any good (very) simple examples of this approach ?

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Replying to myself : the Nori Sampler seems to be a great patch to study.

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the delwrite~ route, easy and straightforward in a way, but am I right to assume that this doesn’t allow any rate control, any reverse playing, and any slicing ?

It’s a bit more complex to do pitch control, reversing etc when using delwrite, but you can do it using delread4~ and phasor~ to read from the delay buffer at different rates. I’ve found I prefer that as you can process the audio stream in realtime rather than needing to keep writing stuff to a table. One drawback is that you can’t save or load the audio buffer to disk easily.

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