Use the Organelle with a batterybank, mini screen and mini keyboard


#1

I am looking to build a small setup for portable patching without a laptop.
Have anyone tried to use the Organelle with one of those mini screens? Would something like this work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-inch-Capacitive-Touch-Screen-LCD-Display-1024x600-HDMI-For-Raspberry-Pi-1-2-3-/262878860710?hash=item3d34cd15a6:g:dVUAAOSwhlZYuRFj

I don’t care about touch so I was thinking running the usb cable into a power bank.

Also I was thinking a small keyboard like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rii-k01v3-mini-wireless-keyboard-backlit-laser-pointer-for-Multimedia-teaching-/221488195962?hash=item3391b9a97a:g:fywAAOSwzaJX5lL9

And some sort of powerbank with either a usb + a 9v dc or two usb and a voltage converter.

What do you guys think? If I mounted everything in a small case it could be a great portable patching setup for the park, the boat or the train!


#2

Personally I’d sooner just take a laptop around with me and use desktop mother, seems like a lot of wires dangling around for a portable solution. Wouldn’t you have a hard time patching on a screen so small? Any particular reason you want to avoid the laptop?


#3

I would have to try to keep it all tidy.
It’s just a thought experiment for now, but sometimes it can be so creative to get away from the normal computer.


#4

I have a Blackmagic Video Assist 4K. A video monitor for my camera. Maybe that will work too. Will check soon.


#5

The Organelle wants a screen resolution of 1920x1080. Otherwise, you will likely have to edit the XConfig.

I do have one of those little touch screens laying around, but patching PD with one of those seems like a frustrating situation. A mouse may be necessary!

You will also have to power it, so a powered USB hub might be necessary as well, making the portability a bit impacted. Unless you can get a batterypack to powered the whole kit and kaboodle. I have a 8xAA battery pack that I got from Adafruit which works great, but I’m not sure it would be able to power the little screen as well. A powerbank like you mentioned may be the ticket, but it seems like a lot of extra gear when a laptop may solve the solution.

The way I do portable patching is to remote into the Organelle over SSH and patch with my laptop. It’s pretty minimal once you get the WiFI setup.


#6

I’ve used a similar HDMI screen and keyboard and it can be a little frustrating. 1024x600 is pretty small, almost a quarter of the native 1080! I’ve been on the lookout for a small 1080 HDMI monitor, but surprisingly there are not many options…


#7

Maybe the answer is getting a 2. hand macbook air i guess , and use it with the mother ptach.


#8

Hey @KristofferLislegaard could you please explain this? Is it possible to patch with the organelle plugged into a laptop? essentially using the laptop as a screen and keyboard?


#9

your laptop would have to have hdmi in rather than just out, but i don’t think there are any that do - so that’s not possible.
however, when using a laptop you can work using the ‘desktop mother’ patch, which simulates the organelles hardware and functions so you can program on your computer for the organelle without having to be hooked up to the organelle at all.


#10

if you have a wifi usb stick you can do this… but it takes a little setup
a) on a mac/Linux laptop then use can do this using X11…
Ive written a post about this here
its not actually easier, since the latest beta I put out contains the configuration changes needed.
… so basically install that, then follow the instructions about setting the X11 display etc.

b) on a windows based laptop, its also possible using VNC
this requires you to setup vnc on the organelle, we could package this I guess…

both approaches work really well, its how I do the majority of the testing of my organelle patches :slight_smile:


#11

Ok so I gave up on this project, BUT I would like to get a small screen and a small keyboard/trackpad.

The scenario I am thinking is for the situations where I want to play with no laptop and just the Organelle. If I want to do some quick small edits in my patches it would be great to have a small portable screen and keyboard.

I think these two looks really nice:

Screen:
https://www.aliexpress.com/premium/waveshare.html?d=y&origin=y&blanktest=0&SearchText=waveshare&tc=ppc&initiative_id=AS_20180320151854&isViewCP=y&catId=7080401

Keyboard:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Genuine-New-Rii-K18-Large-Size-2-4GHz-Wireless-Multimedia-Mini-Keyboard-Touchpad-Air-Mouse-For/32760251941.html?src=google&albslr=222216967&isdl=y&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&source={ifdyn:dyn}{ifpla:pla}{ifdbm:DBM&albch=DID}&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=494-037-6276&isdl=y&albcp=1057920432&albag=57649687851&slnk=&trgt=295990060787&plac=&crea=en32760251941&netw=g&device=c&mtctp=&gclid=CjwKCAjw4sLVBRAlEiwASblR-4PV1zAaNle3ybCw6ZiAXWgvvb6c0SwsGzYurgPC1qdVF_egW27ouRoCBSgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Maybe a smaller keyboard would be better but other than that I think this could work nicely.


#12

I travel a fair bit with work over to Northern Ireland and take my Organelle and this keyboard with me:

I stay at the same hotel every time and I know they have TVs with HDMI inputs but there’s nothing worse than planning an evening of messing about on Pure Data only to be thwarted by an old skool TV or even more tantalising a TV with a lock on the HDMI port!

Anyway, been very pleased with this keyboard and I got a neoprene cover on eBay which protects it nicely.


#13

Ah thanks! I see they are selling this one localy here. Is the trackpad part of it working nicely?


#14

Those both look cool, thanks for posting those links. It looks like the Rii keyboard has a wire in addition to wireless dongle ? that is a great idea, I have a stack of keyboards that are useless after I lost the dongles… but I wonder about the track pad, I’d probably try the Logitech one first.

The screens can be a little hard to see, even ones claiming a certain resolution seem to have blurry pixels (hard for Pd since many of the graphical features only use 1px). it says it IPS though, so that should be the best bet…


#15

Yes, no complaints at all with trackpad. Only slight issue is that the Organelle uses a different keyboard layer so some things, specifically the tilde, are not where they should be. Would definitely recommend, worked straight out the box without setup required and the batteries last months apparently.


#16

I’ve got a waveshare display and it does not work with the current organelle os.
( it does however work on the the organelle Linux upgrade project - but this is not supported and in dev only)


#18

I am preeeeetty sure I saw a video where it shows that the wire only works for charging wich is a bit stupid. at least there is a compartment in the keyboard where you can place the dongle when you are not using it.


#19

Ah! That is a good tips. Thank you. Have you tried any similar screens? Or at least something that is small enough to bring to rehearsal/preprod that works?

It is too bad that the Organelle is so picky on screens. Doesn’t work with my Blackmagic micro recorder either :frowning:


#20

I use a little Kano keyboard (because I’ve done a few projects with them) works really nicely, and they also do a mini HDMI screen. (though I’ve not tried it). I also helped with some sounds for a little gesture controller they make, and have been meaning to talk to C&G to see if the organelle could perhaps be compatible with it too.


#21

Anyone tried this one?

https://www.digitalimpuls.no/adafruit/143042/adafruit-hdmi-5-display-backpack-uten-touch