# A patch that sends program changes **URL:** \ **Category:** Organelle\ **Created:** [September 9, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361 "2020-09-09T06:45:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 6:45am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/1 "2020-09-09T06:45:47Z")
Hi! Wondering if someone has done a patch that sends PC messages to control pedals via midi (Zoia, Meris, Chase Bliss, etc? I would love to do it, but no idea how to start. I hope someone can provide some light! Regards ---
**Author:** ![Jaffasplaffa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jaffasplaffa/32/2053_2.png) [@Jaffasplaffa](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jaffasplaffa)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/2 "2020-09-09T10:32:21Z")
There is an object for PD called “pgmout”. Did you try it? Right click and push help to understand how to set it up. Make sure you send the program change to the right midi channel. I’ve used it on Mac but did not try from Organelle, but it should work 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/3 "2020-09-09T19:00:12Z")
Thanks @Jaffasplaffa! ! I had no idea of that help menu. So now it’s about figuring out that, but it seems not that puzzling (fingers crossed) I’ll tell you how it goes for me haha [Screen Shot 2020-09-09 at 1.58.22 PM|690x440](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/uploads/short-url/rb9Ac3CrBMHeIIyxPJZKZ5u4HzE.png) ---
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/4 "2020-09-09T20:10:41Z")
It worked!! I appreciate your help @Jaffasplaffa Also works with ctlout for CC messages, I’m mindblown! ---
**Author:** ![Jaffasplaffa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jaffasplaffa/32/2053_2.png) [@Jaffasplaffa](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jaffasplaffa)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/5 "2020-09-10T07:57:32Z")
Haha, I am happy to help 😉 The rabbit hole is VERY deep, when it comes to Pure Data 😉 The help files are always a good place to start when wanting to know more about an object. So if this blows your mind, you have some mind blowing times ahead, once you learned some more, hehe 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/6 "2020-09-10T21:20:46Z")
are you aware of the c&g patch ccequencer? it’s fun and might offer a few ideas. ---
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/7 "2020-09-22T21:15:41Z")
CCenquer? I can’t find it. By the way, good to read you fella, it’s been a while 🙂 With Jaffasplaffa’s advice I’malreayd controlling my pedals, now I want to use the “basic poly” in an external midi keyboard, and the notesRaw wooden keys sending program changes… It will eventually work haha 🤞 ---
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/8 "2020-09-22T21:21:50Z")
Oh, found it! [https://patchstorage.com/ccquencer/](https://patchstorage.com/ccquencer/) ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/9 "2020-09-23T08:41:21Z")
best of luck on your pd quest man! ---
**Author:** ![chkbeto](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chkbeto/32/580_2.png) [@chkbeto](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chkbeto)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 4:54am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/a-patch-that-sends-program-changes/6361/10 "2020-10-20T04:54:13Z")
Here’s my attempt by the way (If anyone goes thru the same quest) 🙂 Edit: Added the Bpm sync for the delay and ableton link (guys, you were right, this feeling is pretty cool 🕶 ) Here: [Midi Meris.zip](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/uploads/short-url/jOJx34372rdx72aTUkiTRs4jvrt.zip) (9.3 KB)