# Are official C&G patches competible with ORAC?

**URL:** <https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/are-official-c-g-patches-competible-with-orac/9036>\
**Category:** Organelle M & S\
**Created:** [December 13, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/are-official-c-g-patches-competible-with-orac/9036 "2022-12-13T18:35:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jyglsshp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Jyglsshp](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jyglsshp)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/are-official-c-g-patches-competible-with-orac/9036/1 "2022-12-13T18:35:08Z")

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Just wondering, are official official C&G patches competible with ORAC? I know Organelle patches and ORAC patches are 2 separate things. So crious to know if C&G usually include both the Organelle and ORAC patches when they with their official patches?

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**Author:** ![T8R](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/t8r/32/5164_2.png) [@T8R](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/T8R)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/are-official-c-g-patches-competible-with-orac/9036/2 "2022-12-13T18:48:22Z")

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C&G patches are not available right out of the box in Orac. Many of them can be converted and be used in Orac but they use different knob names, ways of handling graphics and pages, etc. You can try the Orac easter egg which lets you use a single instance of a normal Organelle patch but it is not guaranteed to work