# B&W video scope help

**URL:** <https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438>\
**Category:** Video Scopes\
**Created:** [April 24, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438 "2023-04-24T11:02:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Zonkrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zonkrings](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Zonkrings)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/1 "2023-04-24T11:02:16Z")

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Hi everyone  
Ok I just bought a b&w video synth

Uk based so I’ve now bought a uk psu 👍

I have an old 70s I was planning on using but it’s only got a Ariel in  
Is there an rca to Ariel cable and sound that even work ?

What tvs can I use ? I wanted a old style tv as I don’t like the looking modern tvs

Any help would be great

Also what video projectors will work with the video synth b&w  
Any with an rca input ?

Last of all I might need a ntsc to pal converter  
Then all set

Any help would be great to ss e any extra unneeded expense  
Thanks 😁🪐👍

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/2 "2023-04-24T13:57:10Z")

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> [@Zonkrings](#):
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> I have an old 70s I was planning on using but it’s only got a Ariel in  
> Is there an rca to Ariel cable and sound that even work ?

If your TV only has an antenna/aerial input, you will need an RF Modulator as an intermediary between the video scope and your TV.

Make sure the RF Modulator you get can receive a NTSC-formatted composite video signal.

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> [@Zonkrings](#):
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> Also what video projectors will work with the video synth b&w  
> Any with an rca input ?

Yes, if you want the video scope to go straight into a projector, the projector will need a composite video input. You can also get a composite-to-hdmi adapter if your projector does not have a composite input.

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**Author:** ![Zonkrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zonkrings](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Zonkrings)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/3 "2023-04-25T14:50:03Z")

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Hi thanks you

It’s a little more complex than I originally thought when I bought the video scope  
But i will push on to get it playing

Are these the things you’re talking about ?  
It’s all new to me so just trying to understand what I need to get things working  
🙃

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/2X/4/4a17662e924a09fa406c4b3b49b30d5423c9104e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zonkrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zonkrings](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Zonkrings)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/4 "2023-04-25T14:51:16Z")

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Also I found this ?

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/2X/c/cd9e15b2264be52d65de1f0b09f05ccc6f1589e7.jpeg)

I’m slowly getting there  
Huge thanks for your guidance 👍

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**Author:** ![Zonkrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zonkrings](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Zonkrings)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/5 "2023-04-27T11:01:21Z")

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Hi thanks I’m getting there  
So I posted two pictures  
Are these items correct for my needs

I’ll be wanting to use a 70s with only Ariel input

Thanks

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/6 "2023-04-27T16:44:56Z")

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Hi, yes, those two look good.

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**Author:** ![Zonkrings](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b5ac83/32.png) [@Zonkrings](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Zonkrings)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/7 "2023-04-27T19:19:41Z")

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Hi  
Ok cool  
Is one going to better than to other ? Or shall I buy both just incase ?  
Thx is so much 👍

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/8 "2023-04-28T13:06:56Z")

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RF Modulators are pretty standard so you might try the cheaper one first and go from there.

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/9 "2023-04-29T12:27:37Z")

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Ok cool thanks  
Will that will work with my old Ariel only tv

Just need the cables next  
And then hopefully all set  
👍👍👍🪐🛸

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/10 "2023-05-01T16:51:17Z")

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> [@Zonkrings](#):
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> Do that will work with my old Ariel only tv

RF modulators are designed for your intended purpose so they should work.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/11 "2023-05-07T16:49:27Z")

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Ok. Cool thanks

Apologies for my mixed up message

Just waiting for the modulator arrive  
Any day now  
👍😁

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/12 "2023-05-15T14:48:06Z")

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Hi  
I’m back

Ok I’ve got the rf converter  
Set everything up

It’s sort of working but not quite

My image is not vertical like in the demo video’s and is strobing all the time  
My image is horizontal?  
And no matter what I try I can’t get it to look  
Like in the demo video  
Any help would be great

This is more complex than I originally thought

Maybe I need another tv or a projector ?

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/2X/e/eef06425fe478a06216318c0c2e26c67067229fa.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/13 "2023-05-15T14:52:01Z")

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/14 "2023-05-15T16:06:09Z")

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/15 "2023-05-15T16:07:35Z")

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/16 "2023-06-20T00:59:25Z")

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Hi there,  
Looks like the vertical and/or horizontal hold on your TV may need to be calibrated. These settings should be user-adjustable on old sets like this; look for two trimpots (tiny knobs) on the back. Hope this helps!

P.S. The v/h hold controls the speed at which the CRT builds the image on the screen. It can be fun to intentionally mess with these controls, for example tuning the h hold to twice its normal speed will generate a copy of the image superimposed upon itself (see photo for an example of this with the “paper” mode of the b&w scope)

 ![IMG_0185](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/2X/0/01e819554c1eb030ad855d4cfc00c2b1714cd5de.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/b-w-video-scope-help/9438/17 "2023-06-27T20:24:26Z")

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Thank you so much  
I’ve had to pack all my gear away now ready to house move  
Soon as I get settled I’ll give it a go  
👍🕶🪐

I’ll let you know how things turn out once settled  
👍
