# How to set default knob values & save knob values when switching between patches

**URL:** <https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/how-to-set-default-knob-values-save-knob-values-when-switching-between-patches/7827>\
**Category:** Organelle\
**Created:** [October 8, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/how-to-set-default-knob-values-save-knob-values-when-switching-between-patches/7827 "2021-10-08T18:23:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![mirrorcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@mirrorcoast](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/mirrorcoast)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/how-to-set-default-knob-values-save-knob-values-when-switching-between-patches/7827/1 "2021-10-08T18:23:57Z")

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Hi everyone,

I’m wondering two things that may or may not be related:

1. What’s the best way to set default knob values when designing a patch? I mean the values that are set when you load the patch after turning the Organelle on.

2. Usually, when I leave a patch to go to another one and then go back, the settings I had last in the first patch are still saved (assuming I didn’t turn the Organelle off). But in another patch I’m working on, the settings are not saved. When I leave the patch and go back to it, the knobs are back at their defaults. Any suggestions for how to make the settings not go back when I switch between patches?

Thanks for any info on these things!

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**Author:** ![xhg](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/xhg/32/5320_2.png) [@xhg](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/xhg)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/how-to-set-default-knob-values-save-knob-values-when-switching-between-patches/7827/2 "2021-10-08T20:26:47Z")

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Check out [o-knob](https://github.com/bapch/o-knob). It’s pretty easy to implement in a patch.

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**Author:** ![mirrorcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/91b2a8/32.png) [@mirrorcoast](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/mirrorcoast)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/how-to-set-default-knob-values-save-knob-values-when-switching-between-patches/7827/3 "2021-10-09T16:53:19Z")

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Thank you! I’ll check that out.