# Looking for a Kaleidoloop **URL:** \ **Category:** Pocket Piano / Bolsa Bass / Original Kaleidoloop\ **Created:** [June 20, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360 "2017-06-20T12:29:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DeliphoneLives](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/deliphonelives/32/648_2.png) [@DeliphoneLives](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/DeliphoneLives)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/1 "2017-06-20T12:29:17Z")
I’m in the market for a Kaleidoloop but cannot find anyone selling. If anyone has one they are looking to sell, or if Critter & Guitari has any plans of re-manufacturing please let me know. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/2 "2017-06-20T13:32:22Z")
What does the kaleidoloop do exactly? ---
**Author:** ![DeliphoneLives](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/deliphonelives/32/648_2.png) [@DeliphoneLives](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/DeliphoneLives)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/3 "2017-06-22T11:37:23Z")
It’s basically a sampler. You sample on the fly and you can adjust the speed and direction of the samples. The key is that it’s portable and self-contained. Battery powered and built-in speaker. ---
**Author:** ![jani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jani](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jani)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:15am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/4 "2017-06-23T08:15:13Z")
There’s a patch on the critter site that’s called Phase Vocoder… it has similar functions, gray patch, only downside is that you can’t store more than one sample that is limited to 30 seconds. with the kaleidoloop you can record one single track until the sd card is full. There is also a “Stepped Mode” on the kaleido where you can change the speed in steps like on the sticker… Cool to playalong because the tuning is transposed harmonically when you tweak the speeds. Would be cool that somebody could take that Phase Vocoder Patch and tweak it a little, maybe it would get even better than the original kaleido? 🙂 ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/1X/2eb36d143dc9cf667c7b8315507f2ef08d3d7816.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jani](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jani)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 8:16am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/5 "2017-06-23T08:16:21Z")
sorry not a gray but great patch :)) ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/6 "2017-06-23T14:40:28Z")
did you ask the C&G folks to release that in organelle/pd? That would be great Or at least they could comment on how that was done. If your goal is 30 second recordings you may be out of luck but musical behaviors certainly can be approximated ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/7 "2017-06-23T15:04:01Z")
It’d be great to make the Kaleidoloop inside the Organelle, the problem is playing sound files from disk at variable speed and direction. Pd has built in readsf~, but this only plays forward normal speed. I haven’t run across a Pd external that does this, but I’ve been thinking about writing one (or updating another). The Kaleidoloop code can’t easily be ported because it writes and reads directly to flash memory, bypassing the filesystem all together. ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/8 "2017-06-26T03:00:33Z")
you haven’t run across a pd external that does what? ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/9 "2017-06-26T03:01:40Z")
if you mean you have not run across a pd external that reads through a sound file? I think that is what you mean The answer is to abandon that unless you plan on doing something with the file afterwards? ---
**Author:** ![jani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jani](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jani)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/10 "2017-06-26T08:36:42Z")
sorry, but the Phase Vocoder Patch on your site does play a recording at variable speed and pitch. Also in reverse direction. It just has not got that “Stepped Mode” function and the recording it is limited to 30 seconds… ---
**Author:** ![Bassick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/bassick/32/316_2.png) [@Bassick](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Bassick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/11 "2017-06-26T17:01:21Z")
Well, while we are on the subject of the phase vocoder patch, I would love to have this exact same patch but without the phase vocoding. So basically just the sampling and looping feature only. With standard audio quality. I spoke with Shreeswifty about this, and I can’t figure out how to modify the PD file. This would be a top notch patch for quickly creating very interesting loops. Let’s do this ---
**Author:** ![jani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@jani](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jani)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/12 "2017-06-26T17:05:17Z")
would be cool if it can store more than one sample like on the kaleido… ---
**Author:** ![Bassick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/bassick/32/316_2.png) [@Bassick](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Bassick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/13 "2017-06-26T23:09:34Z")
Bump this… Owen?! 🎛🤓👍🏼🙏🏽🕶✔️ ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/14 "2017-06-27T02:06:10Z")
The _Overloop_ patch (comes with Organelle, or you can download [here](https://www.critterandguitari.com/pages/organelle-patches) ) does basically what you are talking about, just turn down the recycle knob and it is a basic looper. ---
**Author:** ![Bassick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/bassick/32/316_2.png) [@Bassick](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Bassick)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/looking-for-a-kaleidoloop/1360/15 "2017-06-27T04:25:58Z")
ok cool, thank you. bizarre side note, i just hooked up the Organelle in the studio and plugged a cord into the input, and the Organelle was not even plugged in, and the Organelle passes audio through it when it is completely off. trippy… how does it do that??? it’s really quiet, but still, strange…