# MIDI clock start

**URL:** <https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814>\
**Category:** Patching\
**Created:** [October 3, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814 "2017-10-03T19:49:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![oiboy86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a8b319/32.png) [@oiboy86](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oiboy86)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/1 "2017-10-03T19:49:40Z")

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Hi every body!

I’m new here and i have a question:

is there any patch that behaves like the PLAY button in Ableton?

I mean when i’m in ableton and i press play, my drum machine (MFB 522) starts doing its programmed patterns. But when i connect (though MIDI cable) the organelle to the MFB 522, i can hear the sound of it when i press the button of the organelle, but i can’t find a patch that can start the pattern of the drum machine.

Any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/2 "2017-10-03T20:28:42Z")

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there is an ableton link patch around somewhere but you need a little wireless adapter. i assume that would do the trick

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**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/3 "2017-10-03T20:43:05Z")

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so you want organelle to start your MFB 522?  
if so , you just need to send it a midi clock start message (=250), using the midiout object.

its unlikely a patch does this, and only this  
as for a patch that does this? perhaps one of the patches with a sequencer might send it?  
or perhaps there is a midi sequencer that does it?

If I were you, id look for a patch that you want to use, and then look into adding the start/stop -\>midi out, if its not already there.

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**Author:** ![oiboy86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a8b319/32.png) [@oiboy86](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oiboy86)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/4 "2017-10-03T20:58:34Z")

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@shreeswifty thank you! the fact is that i don’t want to use ableton.

@thetechnobear Yess! this is what i want.  
For exemple it would be cool using the arpeggio that sync the MFB22 but i’m not really into pd.  
Btw thank you

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**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/5 "2017-10-03T21:17:09Z")

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> [@oiboy86](#):
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> @thetechnobear Yess! this is what i want.
> 
> For exemple it would be cool using the arpeggio that sync the MFB22 but i’m not really into pd.
> 
> Btw thank you

good time to learn some PD 🙂

I went to check the arpeggio patch, to see how easy it is , and (theoretically) its easy.

so in the arpeggio patch, you’ll see it uses a sub patch called master metronome,

one of the inlets (left hand side) goes to a toggle, this is the on/off for the metro

what you want to do is…  
if this (toggle) is 1, you want to bang the [250] you see in the bottom corner  
(someone obviously thought about sending a start, but decided against it 😉

also you should implement clock stop, which is 252  
so copy the [250] change it to 252, and connect it also to the midiout  
now, if the toggle is 0 you want to bang the 252

viola, your patch will work lovely… and it will be sync’d  
(fyi, the patch is already sending out midi clock ,248)

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**Author:** ![oiboy86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a8b319/32.png) [@oiboy86](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oiboy86)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/6 "2017-10-04T07:26:53Z")

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😮WOW!! I’m gonna try as soon as i can!  
Yes definitely good times to learn some pd!

I’ll update you in my attempt to modify the patch.  
😂

Thank you very much!

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**Author:** ![oiboy86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a8b319/32.png) [@oiboy86](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oiboy86)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/7 "2017-10-04T10:06:02Z")

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> [@thetechnobear](#):
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> one of the inlets (left hand side) goes to a toggle, this is the on/off for the metro
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> what you want to do is…
> 
> if this (toggle) is 1, you want to bang the [250] you see in the bottom corner
> 
> (someone obviously thought about sending a start, but decided against it 😉
> 
> also you should implement clock stop, which is 252

I know that I could be exiled from this forum for this.  
I’ve tried to follow your instructions but I could not do anything sensible

 ![08](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/1X/e45fd600cfa80957e2969ea575ca0a53fc997d75.png)

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**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 10:23am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/8 "2017-10-04T10:23:42Z")

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> [@oiboy86](#):
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> I know that I could be exiled from this forum for this.

why would you be exiled… I think more people should be trying to DIY… thats the only way to learn PD.  
I preferring helping people do this, rather than doing it for them.  
“…, teach a man to fish and he can feed himself forever” (or whatever the quote is 😉 )

ok, which patch are you looking at, I looked at arpeggio synth and sampler, and I think they have a slightly newer version of master-metronome.pd that the one you are looking at…

this is the version i see… and you could adapt the one your using to the same…

 ![11](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/critterandguitari/original/1X/5e5d9ad402be5c56242516a3ad55ed2849139fac.png)

ive annotated to explain whats needed, (it would have been faster to patch it, but thats not the point 😉 )

just to be clear, dont just connect to the toggle, you need to put another object or two there …  
hint: you want a bang for one wire if its ==0 and another if its not ==0 🙂

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**Author:** ![oiboy86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a8b319/32.png) [@oiboy86](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oiboy86)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/midi-clock-start/1814/9 "2017-10-04T19:37:42Z")

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Great!!

you’re right! I’m gonna try to understand more of it now.  
Yes the patch i had was an older one that’s why i didn’t recognize the steps you wrote to me.  
Let’s see if i’m gonna find out something. :))

Thanks for your patience.

Gio
