# Organelle controlling Digitakt when MIDI Out Disabled **URL:** \ **Category:** Organelle\ **Created:** [October 6, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946 "2019-10-06T00:11:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/1 "2019-10-06T00:11:09Z")
I’ve got my Organelle connected to my Digitakt via USB right now, and I’m not sure why but the Organelle keeps triggering the kick. MIDI Out is Disabled and even so, the MIDI channel shouldn’t register. Does anyone know what may be causing this and/or how to stop it? ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/2 "2019-10-06T00:38:21Z")
What patch are you running? ---
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/3 "2019-10-06T01:27:26Z")
I’ve run several patches. Cassette 808 Polybeat, Linn Drum, Arp II, Arp III. I should’ve mentioned this in the first post but it isn’t _really_ triggering the kick, but it is lighting up on the Digitakt and the actual kick loaded on the Digitakt (button 1) isn’t sounding. The drum patches that I’ve loaded onto the Organelle seem to just give me this fixed sound that is hard to describe but none of the drum sounds on the patch work. On the synth patches I’ve loaded only the left most keyboard key, next to the aux key, will trigger that weird sound. The other keys seem to at least produce audio. ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/4 "2019-10-06T01:31:48Z")
> [@LazyLion](#): > > The drum patches that I’ve loaded onto the Organelle seem to just give me this fixed sound that is hard to describe but none of the drum sounds on the patch work. On the synth patches I’ve loaded only the left most keyboard key, next to the aux key, will trigger that weird sound. The other keys seem to at least produce audio. You notice this with MIDI connected? or even with no MIDI? is the Organelle out connected to Digitakt in? is the Digitakt out also connected to the Organelle in? ---
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/5 "2019-10-06T01:34:57Z")
My chain is currently: - Octatrack out to Digitakt - Digitakt out to MIDI host - MIDI host out to OP-1 - Digitakt USB out to Organelle ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/6 "2019-10-06T01:38:44Z")
> [@LazyLion](#): > > Digitakt USB out to Organelle So the Digitakt output is connected to the Organelle input? how could the Organelle be triggering anything on the Digitakt if the Organelle’s output is not connected to the Digitakt’s input? ---
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/7 "2019-10-06T01:40:38Z")
They’re only connected via USB. I have MIDI Out disabled on the Organelle so that’s why I’m wondering why it’s interfering with the DT. ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/8 "2019-10-06T01:47:40Z")
oh right, using USB… hmm, is there any MIDI monitor on the Digitakt or anything like that? so we could see what it is actually receiving… I was asking about the patch since patches can do their own thing for MIDI, but if the same thing is happening on multiple patches it could be something else ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 4:34am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/9 "2019-10-06T04:34:42Z")
Is it not quite likely the octatrack is sending this message to the digitakt? I have an Octatrack and you definitely need to delve into the midi settings on Elektron devices, the selections for what is and isn’t received by their devices are quite particular. You may have already ruled this out, just a suggestion though. Is the behaviour the same with recent stock Critter and Guitari patches? ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/10 "2019-10-06T04:39:34Z")
IAfter a quick look around, seems to be that the Digitakt is a USB midi slave only, so you can’t use it to send usb midi to the organelle. I would disconnect them and try to use a 5-pin midi to usb adapter between the digitakt 5-pin midi out and the organelle. Found a topic here: [https://www.elektronauts.com/t/is-usb-midi-out-working-right-now-or-not-sending-track-data/40500/6](https://www.elektronauts.com/t/is-usb-midi-out-working-right-now-or-not-sending-track-data/40500/6) Might be worth posting to the elektron forums and seeing what the state of play is now, no idea if it has been implemented since. Best of luck anyway! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/11 "2019-10-06T04:50:14Z")
I see - would this cable work? > **[Amazon.com: MIDI TRS DIN Cable for Akai Korg Line-6 Littlebits Make Noise - MPC...](https://www.amazon.com/MIDI-Cable-Line-6-Littlebits-Noise/dp/B0797SG8RS/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=midi%2Btrs&qid=1570337280&sr=8-3)** Not sure if there’s a way to tell if it’s MIDI TRS A or B but I know that the Organelle M has issues receiving MIDI from whatever Arturia uses. ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/12 "2019-10-06T05:01:21Z")
So Organelle M uses type A trs midi, which is the same as the amazin item you linked, if you can get your hands on a type A adapter like that it should do the trick, but personally i have a hunch usb to 5 pin midi is likely to be the more stable option at this point. ---
**Author:** ![LazyLion](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazylion/32/3905_2.png) [@LazyLion](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/LazyLion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 5:05am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/13 "2019-10-06T05:05:57Z")
I have one of these: > **[Amazon.com: iConnectivity mio 1-in 1-out USB to MIDI Interface for Mac and PC:...](https://www.amazon.com/iConnectivity-mio-1-out-MIDI-Interface/dp/B00CO5IRSG/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=mio%2Busb%2Bto%2Bmidi&qid=1570338310&sr=8-2)** Would this serve as USB to MIDI? ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-controlling-digitakt-when-midi-out-disabled/4946/14 "2019-10-06T05:09:40Z")
That should do perfectly. Connect the digitakts midi out port to the 5-pin and the usb to the organelle.