# Organelle M MIDI Out issue **URL:** \ **Category:** Organelle M & S\ **Created:** [July 7, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546 "2019-07-07T14:54:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/1 "2019-07-07T14:54:52Z")
I got an Organelle M last week and have been having a blast with it so far. Tonight I made this arp in LoFi Poly Piano that I was really digging. I decided I wanted to record the audio and midi in my DAW for further manipulation. The audio worked great but I couldn’t get the midi out to work for the life of me. I am using [these](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDI-miniTRS--1010music-midi-adapter-male-3.5mm-trs-to-female-5-pin-din?mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3303552376&rkg_id=0&product_id=MIDI-miniTRS&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20SKU%20-%20Accessories&adgroup=Cables%20-%201010music%20-%20midi-minitrs&placement=google&adpos=1o8&creative=285723450146&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjYHpBRC4ARIsAI-3GkF4gnB1MAqwBl8VL7TAGPny-ZMgy2tEgEDOLo2RhoqkRN2NpVJg02UaAqmIEALw_wcB) adaptors and an iConnectivity Mio USB Midi Interface. I got the Organelle to send some data to my Mac if I pulled the trs end out halfway but it wasn’t the kind of midi I was expecting. It wasn’t notes. [Here is a screenshot](https://imgur.com/gallery/wgZC9bF) of the data it put out with the cable out halfway. With the trs cable in the Organelle fully, no midi data was being transmitted. I confirmed the the Mio is working well with my Pocket Pianos midi out. I’m brand new to the Organelle so maybe it’s something that it doesn’t really do but I think it does and I’m just doing something dumb! Any help would be very appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/2 "2019-07-07T15:51:01Z")
given these are compatible with the 1010music, I think they are not the correct cables ☹ according to this the 1010music uses MIDI TRS B > **[\[Updated\] How to Make Your Own 3.5mm mini stereo TRS-to-MIDI 5 pin DIN cables](https://www.midi.org/articles-old/updated-how-to-make-your-own-3-5mm-mini-stereo-trs-to-midi-5-pin-din-cables)** > > Editors note: T his article was written before the MMA published an official standard for using TRS adapters with MIDI devices, and simply describes the TRS connectors that exist in the market. Future products should use the MMA Specification if they... the organelle-m uses MIDI TRS A, which has been adopted by the MMA as the standard going forward for TRS. ---
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/3 "2019-07-07T17:21:55Z")
Thank you so much! I knew it was something silly. The music store rep who guaranteed these would work with the Organelle is going to about this one! I imagine it’s best to return these and get type a. But maybe I can rewire these cables easily? Is that a bad idea? Thank you again, I really appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/4 "2019-07-07T17:47:23Z")
i paid like 14$ each for the Korg versions from Amazon > **[Amazon.com: MIDI TRS DIN Cable for Akai Korg Line-6 Littlebits Make Noise - MPC...](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0797SG8RS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)** These work perfectly ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/5 "2019-07-07T17:48:54Z")
> [@lapractica](#): > > maybe I can rewire these cables easily? you could… following the wiring on that [midi.org](http://midi.org) page. then double check pinout with voltmeter, although probably easier to just return em for the correct ones, always ends up being more cutting and soldering than you think. ---
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/6 "2019-07-07T18:07:12Z")
This is all so helpful! Thank you! One more question: does the Organelle do midi out via usb? I know it’s a host so I’m unsure if/how that works. ---
**Author:** ![keymanpal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/keymanpal/32/873_2.png) [@keymanpal](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/keymanpal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/7 "2019-07-07T18:21:05Z")
Sure it does 😉 MIDI over USB. ---
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/8 "2019-07-07T18:33:49Z")
Would I just need a usb type a to usb type a cable to connect it to my Mac? ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/9 "2019-07-07T18:46:06Z")
no the organelle is a brain, it’s a computer that wont work unless i am mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![keymanpal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/keymanpal/32/873_2.png) [@keymanpal](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/keymanpal)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/10 "2019-07-07T18:50:10Z")
Host (OG) to host computer (MAC or PC) … Take a look at this thread [USB MIDI-USB - Seville Soft - MIDI connection between two host](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/usb-midi-usb-seville-soft-midi-connection-between-two-host/2050/11) ---
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/11 "2019-07-07T19:13:58Z")
Thanks everyone. Ordered the type a adaptors and now just need to be patient. ---
**Author:** ![shreeswifty](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/shreeswifty/32/790_2.png) [@shreeswifty](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/shreeswifty)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/12 "2019-07-07T19:16:10Z")
that looks like a nifty solution ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/13 "2019-07-07T22:05:42Z")
yeah, unfortunately this midi trs A vs B is gonna probably keep coming up for a while. its one of those arbitrary decisions (vhs/Betamax 😉 ) … and the midi association decided to back korg (trs A) , when perhaps there were more users using the arturia/novation (trs B) standard. eventually, it’ll all calm down to the MMA (trs A) standard (assuming novation/arturia gracefully accept the decision) , but its gonna be a few confusing years for us end users, till that happens. but totally right that C&G embrace the adopted standard, even if like me , I have the wrong adapters initially 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lapractica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@lapractica](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/lapractica)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/14 "2019-07-08T00:37:16Z")
Thanks so much for all your help, everyone. I’ve learned so much! What an amazing first experience on this forum. ---
**Author:** ![dsoupz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@dsoupz](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/dsoupz)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:26am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/15 "2019-09-27T08:26:18Z")
I am having issues with the 1/8 inch midi out. I saw @chrisk mentioned these cables [https://www.excelvalley.com/product/mini-plug-midi-cables/](https://www.excelvalley.com/product/mini-plug-midi-cables/) to convert type B to type A midi. I have had no success via the 1/8" ports on the organelle. ☹ I have a ZOIA pedal by empress, which shipped with type A 3.5 to 5 pin midi cables. These don’t work with my organelle ports, but fine with the ZOIA. Since they both use type A, I am wondering if it is a software issue or user error on my end? I have tried 3.5 to DIN adaptors from my launchpad pro ( which uses midi type B) and using the said cable A to B converter above, and no luck. The only success I have had is with my EMU 1x1 usb to 5 pin midi - controlling clock, keyboards etc. This is great, but I would like to utilize the onboard midi ports as well. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/16 "2019-09-27T14:26:28Z")
What are you connecting the onboard MIDI ports to? you are unable to receive or send anything? ---
**Author:** ![dsoupz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@dsoupz](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/dsoupz)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/17 "2019-09-27T17:59:25Z")
Yes I am unable to send/ receive anything via the onboard midi ports. I have tried connecting my code 49 midi controller 5 pin out to the in port on the organelle. I have also tried to send clock to my ditto x4 and ZOIA pedals via organelle out port to 5 pin. I connected the organelle out to my Motu audio interface midi in and still no response. I have also tried different midi channels and changing the in channel to omni, that didn’t work either. The cables I have been using are the 3.5mm to 5 pin type A that shipped with the ZOIA. I have tried to use my launchpad 3.5mm to 5pin type B with the A to B converter you mentioned, and it didn’t work. Thanks for you response! ---
**Author:** ![oweno](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/oweno/32/10_2.png) [@oweno](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/oweno)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/18 "2019-09-29T21:26:03Z")
> [@dsoupz](#): > > Yes I am unable to send/ receive anything via the onboard midi ports. In that case there might be a hardware problem of some kind. Please [contact us](https://www.critterandguitari.com/contact) about a repair. ---
**Author:** ![dsoupz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@dsoupz](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/dsoupz)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/19 "2019-10-01T05:32:34Z")
I did a fresh install of the OS thanks to @chrisk. Now I have both midi in and out working! Software issue for sure. Could be useful for others having similar issues. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546/20 "2019-10-01T23:22:30Z")
Hi @dsoupz - thanks for the update - Glad to hear it’s working now! [Next page](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-m-midi-out-issue/4546.md?page=2)