# Save is broken (or does something else then Save from the PD gui) **URL:** \ **Category:** Patching\ **Created:** [January 15, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292 "2018-01-15T00:55:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Klinkenstecker](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/klinkenstecker/32/926_2.png) [@Klinkenstecker](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Klinkenstecker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/1 "2018-01-15T00:55:05Z")
I am currently working on a multi tap delay, which comes with an own parameter system, where the parameters are stored as arrays (and the arrays are stored in the patches). This works fine so far. But today I detected, that when I select “Save” or “Save new” from the Organelle menu (i’m using OS3.0), the array isn’t stored. When I save main.pd from the GUI, the arrays are saved. Is this different behavior intended? And when yes, is there a way so that a changed array can be saved from Organelle? ---
**Author:** ![Lazaruz4](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazaruz4/32/1183_2.png) [@Lazaruz4](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Lazaruz4)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/2 "2018-01-15T02:30:41Z")
I made a similar post a few days ago. Might help. > [@Save New/Save](http://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-new-save/2276/3): > > Looks like I’ll finally be taking the Pure Data plunge! haha thank you so much I thought I was going to have to try and code something, a few clicks I think I can manage. Thanks for the help! ---
**Author:** ![Klinkenstecker](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/klinkenstecker/32/926_2.png) [@Klinkenstecker](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Klinkenstecker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/3 "2018-01-15T10:22:55Z")
I have enabled the “Save contents” flag, but the content is only saved, when I call save from the GUI (more specific: from the main.pd window where I have located the array). Did you tried this suggested solution and did it help in your case? ---
**Author:** ![Jaffasplaffa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jaffasplaffa/32/2053_2.png) [@Jaffasplaffa](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jaffasplaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/4 "2018-01-15T10:54:20Z")
Hm sounds strange, when the save flag in ticked it should save the data. It does when using PD on a regular computer. But if you say it only saves the data when doing it from PD itself, and not when saving from Organelle device itself, there might be an issue with saving patches. But to be honest I have not yet used table that much with Organelle, so I am not sure how it reacts in practice, but in theory it should work. Next time I fire up the organelle I will check up on it. @oweno did you ever experience any problems when working with tables? ---
**Author:** ![Jaffasplaffa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jaffasplaffa/32/2053_2.png) [@Jaffasplaffa](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jaffasplaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/5 "2018-01-15T11:08:52Z")
One thing I find a bit strange about PD is the lack of ability to store the content of a table to a harddisc. I think that would sort out your issue right away. But for some reason that is not possible in PD. ---
**Author:** ![Klinkenstecker](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/klinkenstecker/32/926_2.png) [@Klinkenstecker](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Klinkenstecker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/6 "2018-01-15T11:28:33Z")
I believe writing/wire the code to save the tables to a file via the textfile object should be possible, but then I would need to add an additional save mechanism to my patch, which I think would confuse other users. ---
**Author:** ![Jaffasplaffa](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jaffasplaffa/32/2053_2.png) [@Jaffasplaffa](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Jaffasplaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 11:37am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/7 "2018-01-15T11:37:56Z")
> [@Klinkenstecker](#): > > I believe writing/wire the code to save the tables to a file via the textfile object should be possible, but then I would need to add an additional save mechanism to my patch, which I think would confuse other users. Yeah list-abs should handle that if you want to go down that road. I am not too fond of that approach. Because if one want to add parameters later on, it will mess up the all ready stored presets. But there is probably also a work around for that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lazaruz4](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/lazaruz4/32/1183_2.png) [@Lazaruz4](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Lazaruz4)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/8 "2018-01-26T19:54:38Z")
Sorry for the delay, I’ve not tried anything with my organelle beyond noise making yet and it looks like you’re well beyond me in that area. Barely got myself a monitor and now looking for the keyboard and mouse. Hope you worked this out! ---
**Author:** ![batinste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@batinste](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/batinste)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/save-is-broken-or-does-something-else-then-save-from-the-pd-gui/2292/9 "2018-02-01T19:25:18Z")
Sending [menusave\< message to [s pd-MYPATCH.pd] saves the patch. That’s how my RE-Tape Echo preset system works.