# Setting up a MIDI-Controller for Organelle (AKAI APCKey25) **URL:** \ **Category:** Organelle\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535 "2018-03-07T14:25:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/1 "2018-03-07T14:25:53Z")
Hey Guys, I´m new here. Actually love the Organelle and it´s possibilities. Using it in very different ways in my two Band-Projects. I have an Asai APCKey25 and wanted to connect it to my Organelle. The problem is, that there are only tones on the Soft Keys (Ableton Matrix) and none on the real Keys. Have the same problem with the Arturia MiniLab MK1. Is it possible to map a MIDI Controller to the Organelle? Thanks and greetings! ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/2 "2018-03-07T14:49:22Z")
you need OS3.0 (or 3.1 beta) Then go into settings -\> midi setup Try changing input channel to OMNI You may also need to change the device Then hit save, and try a patch like basic poly. This should work, sorry don’t have the controllers to be more specific. ---
**Author:** ![keymanpal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/keymanpal/32/873_2.png) [@keymanpal](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/keymanpal)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/3 "2018-03-07T15:01:19Z")
> [@Baerk](#): > > The problem is, that there are only tones on the Soft Keys (Ableton Matrix) and none on the real Keys. Maybe it’s just a case of diferent MIDI ch?.. Check on a computer before hand. ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/4 "2018-03-08T13:50:34Z")
Hmmm, I have OS3.0 but under settings is only the Setting “MIDI Channel” but none with “midi setup” and I didn’t find the OMNI setting… ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/5 "2018-03-08T13:51:28Z")
Hm, what shall I check there? Is there a list or something, which MIDI Channel is the right for the Organelle? ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/6 "2018-03-08T14:15:07Z")
that’s not os3… sounds like 1 or 2 you can verify with the info option. Perhaps your upgrade failed , if so try again. (I’d recommend 3.1 beta) Prior to os3 the options for midi are much more limited, so I’d suggest that’s a priority to get this resolved. ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/7 "2018-03-08T18:01:51Z")
In the Info-Box it shows Version 3.0 🤨 I´ll try to install the beta 3.1 🙂 Thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/8 "2018-03-08T18:30:11Z")
Installed 3.1 and everything works fine! Thank you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/9 "2018-03-08T18:48:27Z")
😕 perhaps i added the midi setup early on in 3.1… I admit, sometimes its all a bit of a blur. any how, great that you have it all working now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nineteenfemale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nineteenfemale](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nineteenfemale)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/10 "2018-03-19T23:59:20Z")
I use the organelle with my akai25, and it acts as 2 keyboards. so instead of the samples loading as 1-24 twice, it is 1-48 (25 is used twice, as the last key on the midi controller and the first key on the organelle)… if I move the Akai down an octave, it seamlessly goes up the scale 4 octaves (Akai 1-25, organelle 25-48)… it took some messing around and a lot of trial and error, but it works! hope that helps… ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/11 "2018-03-21T23:24:09Z")
Wow, that’s cool! How did you set this up? ---
**Author:** ![nineteenfemale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nineteenfemale](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nineteenfemale)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/12 "2018-03-31T02:13:01Z")
I used the patch “Sampler 48” and deleted some stuff in PD that had to do with the aux button so it wouldn’t map it to the middle two octaves. I know literally nothing about PD or programming at all, but I just messed around (for a long f’ing time) until it did what I wanted it to do. I also programmed my midi controller to always be set an octave down so it goes up the 4 octaves with no tweaking once I load my patch. I hope I make sense. I don’t even know if you were asking me but there’s an answer anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wannop](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/wannop/32/328_2.png) [@Wannop](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Wannop)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/13 "2018-03-31T06:05:32Z")
Doesn’t aux button control a sequencer on the sampler style patches? I think you could have achieved a similar effect by using that patch as is and just pressing +1 octave on your midi controller and using that to control the higher registers. All for pd experimentation though! ---
**Author:** ![Baerk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/baerk/32/1429_2.png) [@Baerk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Baerk)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/14 "2018-03-31T12:49:14Z")
Haha cool, I think I´ll try to mess up few patches too to get the things working 😃 ---
**Author:** ![nineteenfemale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nineteenfemale](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nineteenfemale)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/15 "2018-04-05T02:54:31Z")
well I wanted the patch to automatically be where I wanted it to be-- meaning when I started my patch I didn’t want to have to mess with the octaves. Because this is mainly for live use, I didn’t want to forget to change the octave. I believe in which ever patch I used, the aux button handled the octaves. So I just kind of deleted anything that said “AUX” in pd and somehow got it to work (for me)! ---
**Author:** ![nineteenfemale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nineteenfemale](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nineteenfemale)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/16 "2018-04-05T02:56:35Z")
is there a PD/ORGANELLE for idiots guide anywhere? even the “idiot guides” are like wayyyyy over my head. I’m trying though! and kind of impressed with myself… ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/17 "2018-04-05T04:09:21Z")
@nineteenfemale here are some videos we made for using PD on the Organelle: > [@Organelle Patching Tutorial Videos](http://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/organelle-patching-tutorial-videos/1963): > > Here are some simple tutorials covering the basics of making a Pd patch for the Organelle! The example patches are available [here](https://patchstorage.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Tutorial-Patches.zip). If you are new to Pd you should also check out a general Pd tutorial like[this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgGol-I4gA&list=PL12DC9A161D8DC5DC). Happy Patching! ---
**Author:** ![nineteenfemale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nineteenfemale](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nineteenfemale)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/18 "2018-04-05T16:06:27Z")
sick! thank you! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fuurthur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@Fuurthur](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/Fuurthur)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/19 "2018-05-23T12:16:32Z")
On this topic of midi controllers (possibly maybe specifically the apckey25) has anyone had success controlling the LEDs of the softkeys? I am hoping I can develop a drum machine around this controller. Would this utilize the ctrout object? Any tips appreciated! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![keymanpal](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/keymanpal/32/873_2.png) [@keymanpal](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/keymanpal)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535/20 "2018-05-23T12:30:54Z")
Roll up sleeves and get “dirty” with Pd… its your best friend;-) > [@Fuurthur](#): > > Would this utilize the ctrout object? More likely `ctlout` no?? I’m quite sure many `ctlout` and `ctlin` Don’t have an apckey25, close by I do have an APCmini… [Next page](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/setting-up-a-midi-controller-for-organelle-akai-apckey25/2535.md?page=2)