# Syncing Organelle M with op1 and Model: Samples **URL:** \ **Category:** Organelle M & S\ **Created:** [March 23, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743 "2020-03-23T18:09:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/1 "2020-03-23T18:09:40Z")
I would like to sync these three devices and am completely lost on what I need to do. I know I need an usb midi host for the op1 but I’m lost after that. Any help would be appreciated! 😩 ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/2 "2020-03-24T04:38:52Z")
Hi, Can you explain your set up further?..which instrument is controlling the other, etc. Diagrams and photos help… ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/3 "2020-03-24T09:39:35Z")
I’ve no clue how I’m going to set it up. I would assume that the samples would have to control everything but I’m not sure. It’s my first actual foray into MIDI ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/thetechnobear/32/42_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/4 "2020-03-24T19:33:34Z")
> [@jonbuzzard](#): > > I know I need an usb midi host for the op1 Easiest approach , as only requires standard midi cables. Both model:samples and op-1 are usb midi devices , so can be plugged into the organelle directly ( since is a usb host) (Hmm, does model:samples have power thru usb? If so it may or may not power on if hosted by organelle!) The **easiest** thing to do then is to have the organelle as ‘clock master’ , so set op-1 and model:samples so receive clock ( not send it!). Do one instrument at a time initially , and use settings-\> midi to setup device. Then there’s a small complication, you then need to set up the organelle to connect to 2 midi devices, search for my post on ‘how to advanced midi’ in this forum. As alternative to this on the organelle-m you could attach then trs midi out of the organelle to model:samples via a midi din cable. ( assuming you have a TRS-a midi adapter and midi din cable). — Eventually you may decide you want the model:samples to be master - but that’s for another time 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/5 "2020-03-25T03:16:14Z")
Thanks. If @thetechnobear and @chrisk are helping me out, I know I’ll figure it out in no time. You guys are superheroes here. ---
**Author:** ![nthirteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8e8cbc/32.png) [@nthirteen](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/nthirteen)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/6 "2020-03-25T09:14:38Z")
I think you could use a standard usb hub connected to the organelle. Then you can connect your elektron and op1 via usb to sync. I made a video a while ago about syncing op1 and elektron stuff via an iOS device (organelle takes the part of the iOS device). might help… Cheers. Andre. ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/7 "2020-04-04T18:34:08Z")
So I have everything set up but it seems like the Organelle doesn’t sync to the model samples tempo, or clock (?). For instance I would like to have the samples playing a drum pattern and have the arpeggio synth sync up with it but it doesn’t show matching tempo on the Organelle bpm display. Should I place the Organelle first in the chain? Do I need to change the settings in the midi menu on the Organelle? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/8 "2020-04-06T04:39:45Z")
Hi - how did you connect the Model:Samples and Organelle? Diagrams and photos help. ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/9 "2020-04-06T05:19:00Z")
@chrisk I used the Organelle as first in chain for clock. Had it working for a little while. But it seems now that when holding a key on the Organelle to play a note, it’s playing the track button on the model samples, repeating a drum note over that pattern. I’d like to just have tempos synced, not one device controlling another. Just tempos synced in all devices ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/chrisk/32/11_2.png) [@chrisk](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/10 "2020-04-06T06:00:18Z")
Got it. You can turn off the MIDI Output in the MIDI menu. Be sure to save (at the bottom) before exiting menu. ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/11 "2020-04-06T13:23:57Z")
So after turning midi out off, samples isn’t showing external tempo message. What am I doing wrong? I need a guru. ---
**Author:** ![jonbuzzard](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.critterandguitari.com/jonbuzzard/32/4172_2.png) [@jonbuzzard](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/u/jonbuzzard)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.critterandguitari.com/t/syncing-organelle-m-with-op1-and-model-samples/5743/12 "2020-04-06T14:26:40Z")
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