New Organelle Available Now!

This depends a on the load: speaker volume, CPU usage, USB devices connected, but generally it is around 5-6 hours.

we hope to carry some MIDI to 1/8" TRS cables soon, these ones also work:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/0-COASTMidi--make-noise-0-coast-midi-cable-1-8-inch-trs-to-5-pin-midi

This depends if any new pi 4 compute module is hardware / pin compatible…

the image is an example of one of many possible patch screens. the look of the patch screen will depend on the patch you are running. but this could be more clear so we’ll update. thanks!

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I understood it but you never know.

I just bought organelle last month.
But not sad because dark blue edition was only half a year sold. And its smaller than newer things. It is special equipment for me, I love that so much :revolving_hearts:

I’m thinking of buying new ones when my savings are accumulated. I hope to play both together.
Thank you critter & guitari :love_you_gesture:

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I have to say, while I understand that some folks might have wanted a bit more of a heads-up, I also appreciate C&G waiting until they had stock to announce things for sale.

I preordered a Red Panda Tensor pedal in late March which was supposed to ship in early April…then late May…then mid-June…now August. Things can change suddenly and radically for smaller companies, and I think C&G’s way of doing this made a lot of sense.

Perhaps there’ll be a discount for customers who very recently bought an Organelle-1 or something, but I’ve had mine for a year or two now and I’ve not found the “limitations” compared to the Organelle-M to be particularly bothersome (I have an external rechargeable battery and a small amplifier and mic set up for when I travel with it–these were fairly cheap and fit in a small case I found for it with the unit). The extra speed and capacity would be cool, but unless you’re primarily using ORAC and switching patches live within one song, I’m guessing it’s not going to be a big difference.

Resale cost may go down for the Organelle-1, but that’s going to mean that some folks who couldn’t afford one might go after the older version and get introduced to this great instrument. I think this is a good thing all around.

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Very excited for the new organelle, I love how C&G have listened to their customers for improvements. Particularly excited for the hardware improvements, and what this will mean for patches going forward.

Trivial: will the light blue chassis ever make a comeback? :wink:

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I have a organelle 1.0 and always wanted to treat it like a portable synth(I’d attach a speaker and a power source to jam with my uke on my couch or outside), ALSO I wanted a second organelle for more goodyness - so organelle M was perfect. I didn’t have the need for more processing till i tried orac, so that is another thing I am looking forward to.

My Organelle M arrives tomorrow, AND I am going for a camping trip tomorrow, a perfect test for the new baby.

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After all my cramping I broke down and bought an Organelle M anyway. Planning on trying to sell of some of my GAS impulse purchases to cover the cost.

Yes this!

I get where you’re coming from. I’ve also experienced this: when something exciting is coming out and it takes so damn long.

I do this too… not too often outside (feel to conspicuous using my organelle in public) but all over the apartment definitely.

Got to say that I’m still having a good time with my Organelle 1.

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I’ve been wanting an Organelle for over a year and was holding off due to the no battery situation. Now my dreams have been answered, in spades. Waiting a week for it to show up is killing me. :wink:

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My M arrives tomorrow but let me share something about the apparent differences and @oweno please correct me if i am wrong.

OrG1 is 32bit arch linux and therefore if LOCKED at say pd 49 [which thanks to @thetechnobear i am going to do shortly for my V1.

M from my understanding runs 64 bit so the types of software [at least, and i must say selfishly] i can develop.
Xenakis said a closed system is a powerful system because it evokes by it’s existence innovation [my expansion] and i agree with him.

I will share some jsfx final [patreon only previously] 32bit jesusonic plugin patches V1 users will fill a diaper for and they were tweaked to work WELL on that system. And We all know that eventually the Organelle1 will be the retro one everyone freaks on when we are dust.

So if i am correct in my assumption though the new one runs 64 bit and is faster so it will spawn a new set of tools and that for me is exciting.

but i actually enjoyed the surprise but to give you some perspective:
I really thought they [C&G] were going to add a monome [onda?] type sequencer and i was tripping on that. also i would probably trade a speaker for 8 knobs but i think this thing is going to work very well with my BLOCK as a controller for a live performance setup as well

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A few questions: Does Deken work natively on the M?

This is why I was obsessed withe c64 for a long time.

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yes, the processor is 64 bit , but the OS (raspbian) and pd are 32 bit - so not much change there really.
64bit is not so common on rPI , partly because the 4gb limit is moot, 64 bit takes more memory, compatibly. so really its only used where you need the extra registers and handling of things like int64.
all that said, where necessary you can compile things as 64bit.

deken…hmm, not checked but I assume so, as this is included as pd0.49 - no?

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mine arrived a few minutes ago =
it’s FAST.
i bench marked with some insane random stuff and a few patches that were too heavy for 1 – they work!!!

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i tested a few Xenakis (stochastic processes with M)

is there a recommendation for midi adapters?

ive not used any… as most of my stuff is done via USB midi,

but basically you need the ones that are to the Korg standard (not arturia/novation) which has become the midi standard, a few examples are listed on the midi website

cool… yeah, one of the things that surprised and delighted me was how fast it now boots and shutdown!

what is it in the patches that makes them work better - more memory? or are they using multiple threads? It’ll be interesting to hear experiences in this area.

most patches I see a modest improvement - but perhaps this is because they were designed to operate within the limits of the organelle-1, so perhaps once you push harder its clearer.

I did notice this with Orac, once you start overloading it with modules, then it behaves much better than on the organelle-1. this is because the communication between PD and mother host, and mother host are all running on a separate cores - so are not blocked when the DSP core is overloaded - so you retain control over the UI, even when audio is breaking up.

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the interference of dsp with control is the only real bugbear anyone ever had with ORAC so that’s quite a huge breakthrough for many users, i’m sure.

apologies if i missed it already, but are the UI graphics and xboot/guimode graphics handled on dedicated cores too?

Would this mean any compatibility issue for using OTC on the Organelle-M?

not dedicated, but for sure the OS generally will tend to avoid the DSP core, since its already very busy …

I’ll need to update OTC, you should not attempt to install it on the organelle-m.

like a few of my utilities, OTC installs things which are particular to arch-linux used by the organelle-1, I need to update OTC to use packages that are suitable for Raspbian.

however, the good news is, when I do OTC for the organelle-m , i’m hoping to get hardware graphics acceleration working, and also then be able to use things like numpy - so it should be a lot better, and I think more stable - however, no promises, as ive yet to do this even in dev… but its on my todo list :wink:

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i started with patches that did not work on v1 and i was very happy with the performance. a poisson based acid bass thing, i am making a list of patches that will be crafted for M. Very exciting

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