Having 2 of the same synth patches loaded

201 Pocket Piano
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With the ability to now store 12 synths! I find myself getting greedy and wanting to load 2 copies of segmenti, with different samples of course.

However it only seems to load the one with the higher number. For instance 8-Segmenti and not 7-Segmenti.

Is there a workaround? Tried renaming them, but it always loads the higher numbered one.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi there. Iā€™m the author of the Second synth[*] layer (SSL) patch which is what I guess youā€™re using to get 12 synths. Thanks for trying it out.

Iā€™ve had a small experiment, and Iā€™m afraid I donā€™t have a good answer for you. Thereā€™s no reason why SSL shouldnā€™t allow the same synth in different slots, as long as theyā€™re numbered differently - and it seems that youā€™ve done that.

Hereā€™s what I found:

  • Iā€™ve tried putting AddMono in slots 7 and 8, and it works from both places.
  • Iā€™ve tried putting Segmenti in slots 7 and 8, and it doesnā€™t like it. My 201PP locks up pretty quickly, even if I use the same samples in both instances. Here, ā€œlocks upā€ means thereā€™s no sound and the metronome light stops flashing.
  • Using the original mother patch - so only six synths - I put Segmenti in slots 1 and 2. The 201PP wouldnā€™t initialise.
  • Using the original mother patch I put Segmenti in slots 2 and 3. The 201PP did initialise, but only the Segmenti in slot 3 played. This was like your experience.

My conclusion from this is that it looks like some kind of quirk with Segmenti. However, Iā€™m loath to criticise someone elseā€™s work, so donā€™t take that as a definitive statement. Also, the code in Segmenti is beyond what Iā€™m capable of debugging given my knowledge and available time.

Sorry not to be of more help. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of Segmenti could suggest what might be happening.

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Segmenti loads the samples into memory so having two instances of it might max out the memory on the 201.

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I also had the idea of having Segmenti on 2 slots, well all the slotsšŸ˜‚
I tried it in varies ways like nik and came with the same results.
Iā€™ve just bought a load of 8gb micro sd cards and on each put Segmenti on with different samples.

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Yes, this was a bug, a naming conflict in the patch causing problems when loading more than one instance. Here is a fixed up version. I tried it in all 6 slots with different samples and it worked well, although loading all those samples does take a little extra time.

Segmenti.zip (5.0 MB)

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Thatā€™s wonderful - thank you, @oweno.

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that was fast! wow thank you

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The updated Segmenti mode has been updated on Patch Storage too: Segmenti | Patchstorage

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Your a legend. Many thanks!!