Getting ORAC to work with midi mixer

Organelle
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Hi I have a Launch Control XL that I’ve been trying to use to control my orac modules. I’ve checked that I’m sending out of channel 1 via USB. Ogranelle OS detects my controller but I’m not able to get midi learn to work.

Clear instructions here would be helpful, sorry for being a newb!

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I would check your MIDI settings in your router module and see if they’re set to receive on channel 1

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Have you set up midi on the orac settings pages?

Each chain has its own midi settings.

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Thanks guys. Here’s exactly what I’ve done.

in MIDI Setup menu

Midi in channel: Omni
Device: Launch control

Moving to ORAC,

Berryloops module in A1

Chain 1 Midi:
In midi on
In midi ch. 1
Out midi ch 0

Active:
A. Dest 0
A. Midi Ch 1

A. Ctrl 2:
A. Note off
A. Ctrl on

Then I go back to Berryloops, enable Midi learn, twist the knob to switch sample, then twist the knob on my Launch control. Disable midi learn. Go back, nothing works

I’ve also tried variations here, and have verified that the Launch control is sending out to Channel 1. First CC is 13

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When you still have MIDI learn enabled, are you able to get the knob on your Launch control to recognize and move the value of the knob in Berryloops?

If yes and it only stops working after you disable midi learn, you need to make sure the knob values are at something other then zero when you disable it otherwise it will ‘unlearn’.

There might be something weird going on where the middle position on the knobs represent zero so choose a weird position like 5 o clock on the knob and then disable MIDI learn.

Also side note, if you have more then 127 samples loaded in Berryloops, I recommend using the regular knobs because normal MIDI only has resolution of 127 values as compared to the very fine resolution of the Organelle knobs.

If you are still having trouble and are only going to use knobs, I use a MIDI Fighter Twister for a knob controller and it is awesome. It was super easy to set up, its very slick and sturdy, and very customizable.

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Yeah no nothings moving. Is it possible the Launch Control just doesn’t work with Organelle? Is there any way to test if this is really the case or to get it to work?

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Well I wanna say if the Organelle recognizes it as a midi device in the MIDI setup then it should work because I think the XL is class compliant :confused: I’m assuming it works just fine with your normal daw setup? Maybe a different usb cable? Maybe you could try to get a Usb to MIDI converter and then use the midi in (assuming you have an m or s)

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just wanted to let everyone know that it appears the XL does not work with ORAC. I have the Akai Midimix now which works OK, though very limited since the akai custom functionality is limited (biggest problem is I cannot switch banks)

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@T8R you say you’re using a midi fighter twister? I just got one and it doesn’t work. meanwhile I plug in my akai midimix and midi learn works fine.

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actually I can get the fighter twister to work, but the problem seems to be that I cannot get both to work simultaneously.

could this be done by editing the patch_loaded file

I tried adding both devices :

oscsend localhost 4000 /midiInCh i 0
oscsend localhost 4000 /midiOutCh i 1
oscsend localhost 4000 /midiInGate i 1
oscsend localhost 4000 /midiOutGate i 1
aconnect “Midi Fighter Twister:0” “Pure Data:0”
aconnect “Pure Data:1” “Midi Fighter Twister:0”
aconnect “MIDI Mix:0” “Pure Data:0”
aconnect “Pure Data:1” “MIDI Mix:0”

but in this case neither work

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That is definitely what you want to do. I believe you need to have Pure Data:0 to Pure Data:1 and get rid of the Pure Data:1 to the Midi MAX and Midi Fighter Twister or change them to :1 instead of :0 if that makes any sense?

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thanks

this didn’t work:

aconnect "Pure Data:0" "Pure Data:1" 
aconnect "MIDI Mix:0" "Pure Data:0"
aconnect "Midi Fighter Twister:0" "Pure Data:0"

and neither did this:

aconnect "MIDI Mix:0" "Pure Data:0"
aconnect "Pure Data:1" "MIDI Mix:1"
aconnect "Midi Fighter Twister:0" "Pure Data:0"
aconnect "Pure Data:1" "Midi Fighter Twister:1"

if I was following your directions correctly

the other problem I encountered with the twister is that upon starting up the device all encoder values reset to default, no matter what settings I have saved in organelle. so the moment I move a knob it goes back to the default value (usually moving up from 0). is there any way to have the twister take values from orac every time I load a new preset? or at least have it latch values like the organelle encoder knobs do?