MIDI Ableton & Organelle 1

Organelle
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Hello everyone,
I want to be able to send and receive midi to & from Ableton Live to the organelle 1. To be clear, some examples: To have a MIDI track in Ableton sending midi notes to organelle patches (eg Rngs). And also to play notes on the organelle and record the MIDI notes in Ableton.
What do I need to buy to make this work?? Would those things below work?

https://www.tie-products.com/en/product/midi-1i1o/
https://www.m-audio.com/products/view/midisport-1x1
Or the 2X2 M- Audio Midisport

I’ve seen many posts about this topic but I’m still not so sure about what I need to do.
Thank you!!!

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As far as I know, you just use a USB-cable and set up Organelle in Ableton’s Midi preferences. No need for a separate midi-interface, since that would be for using a traditional midi-cable/midi-jack which the Organelle doesn’t have.

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You mean USB to USB and straight to the laptop? Because that doesn’t work from what I’ve tested

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Hmm. I think we’d better wait for someone more knowledgeable to chime in. I haven’t tried to connect Organelle for midi, but I use Usb-midi connections for other synths.

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Yes I guess so… I’ve connected multiple synths with no problem but I can’t do it with the organelle…

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If you are trying to connect two USB-A ports together (one on Organelle, one on laptop), it’s not gonna work. From @thetechnobear:

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Hey, thanks for the answer. I’ve seen @thetechnobear answer to another thread. I should be more precise. My plan is to connect to my audio interface (Steinberg UR22). A USB in the Organelle’s port and 2 MIDI 5 pins to the Midi in and out of my interface. I’m just not sure if those cables ( usb to midi in & out) would work… From what I saw, you may end up with the same Midi host to Midi host issue and nothing will work.
Thanks again

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Thanks for clarifying.

‘MIDI host’ doesn’t exist. The USB protocol has the Host-Device connection concept but the MIDI protocol does not.

Once a USB Host like your laptop or Organelle has hosted a USB Device like Steinberg UR22 or other USB-MIDI adapter like Roland UM-One, you don’t need to worry about USB host-host connections. The UR22 and Roland UM-One will just be sending/receiving MIDI to each other. So as long as you connect a MIDI Out to a MIDI In, you will be fine.

The three USB-MIDI adapters you listed in your first post might work. I would recommend the Roland UM-One since we know from other users that it works well with Organelle1.

So your setup would look like this:

  1. Laptop USB A port --> Steinberg UR22 USB B port
  2. Steinberg UR22 MIDI In/Out --> Roland UM-One MIDI Out/In *
  3. Roland UM-One USB plug --> Organelle USB A port

Note * : if you connect both MIDI Out/In, you may get a MIDI loop unless you disable the output or input in software (either on Ableton or Organelle). Or just don’t connect all the plugs/jacks. So if you wanted to control the Organelle from Ableton, disconnect the Organelle’s MIDI output from the Steinberg. Or you could change the send channel on Organelle…there’s lots of ways to avoid a feedback loop, but sometimes it’s cool: https://youtu.be/h-o35-FoO1w

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Thank you so much Chris! I found a retailer that has the Roland um one mk2 here in Greece so I’ll try it out and see how it goes…

PS: the feedback loop video sounds so fun! Unfortunately I’ll need 2 more organelles :joy::joy:

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